Sceners at bluesky (Twitter alternative)
category: general [glöplog]
But is it any good, how does it look ? How much activity is there ?
yes.
like twitter.
depends on you own contact netwok and activity.
like twitter.
depends on you own contact netwok and activity.
Activity-wise, it really depends on your community right now and how many people from it could subscribe.
Right now it has only ~1.5m accounts, which is nothing compared to all other social networks (even Mastodon/Fediverse has 10x more). They plans to grow to 10m+ in early 2024, they're upgrading their infrastructure for that. They also plan to open the federation at this time and remove the invitation system.
Since it's currently all based on invitations, communities come in waves. The term you will find is 'clusters'. For example there was a big wave of furry accounts that made the furry cluster huge in late June. The French cluster grew suddenly in early September and never stopped. The demoscene cluster is starting to get bigger right now. And overall, artists never stopped coming in.
People don't interact as much as on X, but all the feedback is that they prefer to interact on bsky and despise going back to X. The general opinion, which is the same on Mastodon, is that the algorithm on X f*cked all human interactions and that the followers/views figures don't really mean anything anymore there.
I still have a lot more interactions on Mastodon, but the mood on both networks is really different. bsky looks more like a 2015~2017 Twitter.
Right now it has only ~1.5m accounts, which is nothing compared to all other social networks (even Mastodon/Fediverse has 10x more). They plans to grow to 10m+ in early 2024, they're upgrading their infrastructure for that. They also plan to open the federation at this time and remove the invitation system.
Since it's currently all based on invitations, communities come in waves. The term you will find is 'clusters'. For example there was a big wave of furry accounts that made the furry cluster huge in late June. The French cluster grew suddenly in early September and never stopped. The demoscene cluster is starting to get bigger right now. And overall, artists never stopped coming in.
People don't interact as much as on X, but all the feedback is that they prefer to interact on bsky and despise going back to X. The general opinion, which is the same on Mastodon, is that the algorithm on X f*cked all human interactions and that the followers/views figures don't really mean anything anymore there.
I still have a lot more interactions on Mastodon, but the mood on both networks is really different. bsky looks more like a 2015~2017 Twitter.
It's nice so far but ultimately the question is how they plan to enshittify it.
Well that's when things get interesting.
I initially didn't really understand the aim of their new federation, since they federate roles (hosting, curating, search, feeds, labels, appviews) instead of federating monolithic instances (like Mastodon and others).
They said that they initially wanted a federation system where the users could make a "perfect migration" in a few clicks, that is keeping their user id and all content (and maybe even more, their @) from one hosting provider to another one, even if the origin host is a "bad actor" and doesn't allow migration. It doesn't matter because you own the private key to your account repository and anyone can download an archive of any account. Worst case you lose your content but not your account, since you can easily retrieve the manifest, either from the server or your clients.
The other thing I didn't get is that the curating servers (BGS) is a big infrastructure, tailored to handle a massive influx of events coming from million of accounts, so even if you can provide your own hosting server for your account, providing a BGS will be done only by organizations (or rich people).
So what?
Well someone came with the supposition that they're actually developing against themselves. Like in a probable future when they might get shittified for any reason and become the main bad actor. They've been doing a lot of things to avoid that: being a public benefit company, using external systems when they could (like DNS to handle the @usernames / you can already use your own DNS), and recently they announced they're looking to put the ATprotocol responsibility into the hands of an independent actor.
But worst case, they're being shittified like X: well, the people working there gets fired or leave, take the code, make a new infrastructure, people migrate, and you're done, the original bluesky becomes an empty shell but nobody lost anything.
When you see it that way, you understand why their #1 priority right now is to make the federation and account migration work.
Of course, we'll see what's going to happen for real.
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On the "features" side, the protocol is based on lexicons that can be extended for services that are not text-based like Bluesky. So you can theoretically create a new TikTok, streaming service or anything you want based on ATprotocol.
The custom feeds are already generated by federated servers, and some people made fun stuff, I saw a Japanese guy who made a "Gamebook feed" where you start with a post, and clicking on the links makes you take decisions and dynamically redirects you to an adventure through generated posts. There's a feed called "Teams" which puts you in one of the 256 pre-generated team (and you get a pokémon name) and you see posts from the other users of the same team only.
Even the main 3rd party feed server that allows you to easily use regex, filters, stacks and merged results to create feeds is a huge improvement over anything that already exists.
I initially didn't really understand the aim of their new federation, since they federate roles (hosting, curating, search, feeds, labels, appviews) instead of federating monolithic instances (like Mastodon and others).
They said that they initially wanted a federation system where the users could make a "perfect migration" in a few clicks, that is keeping their user id and all content (and maybe even more, their @) from one hosting provider to another one, even if the origin host is a "bad actor" and doesn't allow migration. It doesn't matter because you own the private key to your account repository and anyone can download an archive of any account. Worst case you lose your content but not your account, since you can easily retrieve the manifest, either from the server or your clients.
The other thing I didn't get is that the curating servers (BGS) is a big infrastructure, tailored to handle a massive influx of events coming from million of accounts, so even if you can provide your own hosting server for your account, providing a BGS will be done only by organizations (or rich people).
So what?
Well someone came with the supposition that they're actually developing against themselves. Like in a probable future when they might get shittified for any reason and become the main bad actor. They've been doing a lot of things to avoid that: being a public benefit company, using external systems when they could (like DNS to handle the @usernames / you can already use your own DNS), and recently they announced they're looking to put the ATprotocol responsibility into the hands of an independent actor.
But worst case, they're being shittified like X: well, the people working there gets fired or leave, take the code, make a new infrastructure, people migrate, and you're done, the original bluesky becomes an empty shell but nobody lost anything.
When you see it that way, you understand why their #1 priority right now is to make the federation and account migration work.
Of course, we'll see what's going to happen for real.
---
On the "features" side, the protocol is based on lexicons that can be extended for services that are not text-based like Bluesky. So you can theoretically create a new TikTok, streaming service or anything you want based on ATprotocol.
The custom feeds are already generated by federated servers, and some people made fun stuff, I saw a Japanese guy who made a "Gamebook feed" where you start with a post, and clicking on the links makes you take decisions and dynamically redirects you to an adventure through generated posts. There's a feed called "Teams" which puts you in one of the 256 pre-generated team (and you get a pokémon name) and you see posts from the other users of the same team only.
Even the main 3rd party feed server that allows you to easily use regex, filters, stacks and merged results to create feeds is a huge improvement over anything that already exists.
Few more unused codes of mine and Field-FXs
Have had no issues with people scrapping them removed the prefix from the start of the code this time.
https://bsky.app/profile/reality.beer
gjjl3-o5ct6
ed4w6-vo2ay
i27x6-or7tr
https://bsky.app/profile/field-fx.party
u2mtk-3jwgw
xzzbf-plvyn
s243j-qdrzd
jhh2i-rf7fx
hqyoj-ahmvq
Have had no issues with people scrapping them removed the prefix from the start of the code this time.
https://bsky.app/profile/reality.beer
gjjl3-o5ct6
ed4w6-vo2ay
i27x6-or7tr
https://bsky.app/profile/field-fx.party
u2mtk-3jwgw
xzzbf-plvyn
s243j-qdrzd
jhh2i-rf7fx
hqyoj-ahmvq
Argh invite code not accepted after entering all details that was a smooth experience..
I'm not really a thing but I'd love a code if anyone can help? Thanks muchly
btw I'm the owner of the "Demoscene" Feed:
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:fb3iwxg23jziddgbtsixx3zu/feed/aaanauprllhpm
It's generated by a regex looking for words and URLs like "demoscene" and "pouet.net". It also adds posts from specific users, like the Revision Demoparty account (which I guess is the official one, even if they don't use their own domain name as their @).
I regularly check this feed to refine it and add accounts to it, let me know if you find more content to be added.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:fb3iwxg23jziddgbtsixx3zu/feed/aaanauprllhpm
It's generated by a regex looking for words and URLs like "demoscene" and "pouet.net". It also adds posts from specific users, like the Revision Demoparty account (which I guess is the official one, even if they don't use their own domain name as their @).
I regularly check this feed to refine it and add accounts to it, let me know if you find more content to be added.
(you can also find it simply by typing "Demoscene" in the feeds tab)
Nodepond is on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/nodepond.bsky.social
same prefix as in page 1
hjdxd-cnjxo
hjdxd-cnjxo
Usual prefix, then: xocj2-l4pow
Grabbed xerons, thank you!
I'm @p01.bsky.social
Usual prefix & zva3r-fb7nd
Usual prefix & clbwu-uo6sm
3azn6-zftab
wkep3-2kfyf
wkep3-2kfyf
bsky-social-ygi4f-7v5r7
Inércia demoparty is at @inercia.bsky.social .... come give us a follow :-)
(if you're into AI, GAN and stuff, I've got a secondary account where I drop my experiments: https://bsky.app/profile/latentspacecadet.bsky.social)
bsky-social-kiqzv-v7p47
bsky-social-4mqwq-vfm34
bsky-social-7u42g-7442a
bsky-social-4mqwq-vfm34
bsky-social-7u42g-7442a
Quote:
bsky-social-kiqzv-v7p47
Used the first one, thank you!
usual prefix &
-57icg-u6kcc
-57icg-u6kcc
Usual prefix + 4a7b3-5p4ok