AI, other helping tools, and Amiga pixel graphics
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uncle-x wrote:
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I was refering to an entry higher up called 'the list'. So for fruitful discussion, I made a link for you. Let me rephrase:
if you imagine that someone enter a gfx-compo, that you vote for, which turns out to be AI - how can that be avoided? And is it covered
in this link?
Here’s a list for you:
1) Fuck techbro AI
2) and fuck everyone using it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxNgnQ9m30
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Somehow this whole outcry about using AI or not reminds me a lot of how cross assemblers and code libraries were considered lame and the spawn of evil by a bunch of people (some well known even) in the late 80s
(re-)using (boilerplate) code and using a computer different from your target hardware to program on is not even remotely the same as "i told the copyright infringement nexus to do all the work for me".
come to think of it, it's more like a worse version of someone saying "I want to make a demo! I just need all the code, graphics, and music for me! but i have ideas!!!" except now they can type the ideas out, boil away an ocean, and still end up with something less interesting than if they put a little bit of time into it.
If you can't code, draw, or compose, you can learn. All the resources are out there, and plenty of people willing to help if you reach out. It's easier than ever with all the tools available to you, and the possibility to directly talk to people about it.
If you still choose to instead write a prompt and get a computer to do the fun creative parts for you, then you're a lamer and I don't respect you.
You say that now - and of course you are right. However back then the arguments were kinda similar :)
@Optimus: thanks for sharing your thoughts and almost a personal relationship to AI :)
Lynn wrote:
And this comes with if we are transparent so everyone can judge I think. How do we else know?
I like this part, thats true :)
yes, and some tools are not AI, but make it easier also to create art. For example using a filter so your picture looks like its pixeled. Not AI, but just like AI, maybe a few people go with such things too, or generate AA (anti alising) tool on your objects etc etc. Some people do, and for some this is OK, and for some its not.
by curiosity, whats your point about other tools then, leaving AI, in terms of respect?
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If you still choose to instead write a prompt and get a computer to do the fun creative parts for you, then you're a lamer and I don't respect you.
And this comes with if we are transparent so everyone can judge I think. How do we else know?
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...and plenty of people willing to help if you reach out.
I like this part, thats true :)
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...It's easier than ever with all the tools available to you...
yes, and some tools are not AI, but make it easier also to create art. For example using a filter so your picture looks like its pixeled. Not AI, but just like AI, maybe a few people go with such things too, or generate AA (anti alising) tool on your objects etc etc. Some people do, and for some this is OK, and for some its not.
by curiosity, whats your point about other tools then, leaving AI, in terms of respect?
I added "takes time" and "passion" and "creativity" as elements that may define us who are doing graphics on Amiga.
I added "using AI inspire me" as inspiration source, since I believe some people use the prompt as inspiration. For the rest of us, we can just decide if we like it or not.
I added "using AI inspire me" as inspiration source, since I believe some people use the prompt as inspiration. For the rest of us, we can just decide if we like it or not.
Purpose with this thread was to discuss Amiga graphics related to AI or other tools used in pixel graphic.
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